Akshay Kumar’s Baby has more profits than Ghajini

Baby

Baby Economics:

Cost – 60 cr (link 1) + 10 cr Pnp = 70 cr

non theatrical revenues : (tv) 25 + (music/dvd/dth) 0 = 25 cr (link2)

DS required : 70 – 25 = 45 cr

India DS = 48 cr (96 cr nett exp) (link 3 and link 4)

overseas ds – 5 (11 cr approx) (link 5)

total – 53 cr

Profit – 53 – 45 = 8 cr

Links:

1) http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/baby-3rd-tuesday-box-office-collections/

2) http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/baby-business-economics-collections-needed-for-box-office-hit/

3) http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/baby-3rd-week-box-office-collections/

4) http://www.addatoday.com/2015/02/baby-4th-monday-and-tuesday-collection.html

5) http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/box-office/special-features/id/425

Ghajini Economics:

Cost – 90 cr (link 1) + 14 cr Pnp (link 4) = 104 cr

non theatrical revenues : (tv) 20 (link 4)+ (music/dvd/dth) 8.5 (link 5)= 28.5 cr

DS required : 104 – 30 = 75.5 cr

India DS = 63.5 cr (115 cr nett) (link 2)

overseas ds – 16 (37 cr) (link3)

total – 79.5 cr

ROI/Profit – 79.5 – 75.5 = 4 cr

Links:

1) http://www.mumbaimirror.com/entertainment/bollywood/I-often-feel-I-dont-deserve-Nandana/articleshow/15875838.cms

2) http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/box-office/top5-hindi-movies/id/693

3) http://forums.itsboxoffice.com/138003/what-the-overseas-collection-of-ghajini-znmd-talash-krish3

4) http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/was-ghajini-really-sold-for-a-whopping-rs.-90-crore-/399566/

5) http://www.afaqs.com/news/story/23031_The-marketing-of-Ghajini

  • Official numbers have been used. The following link has Ghajini domestic lifetime as 95.97 cr but 115 cr is taken as that was official number:

http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/moviemicro/boxoffice/id/538494

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29 Comments
  1. Baba 4 years ago

    @sputnik – tweet this post link to akshay kumar fangroups and all related twitter handles. dont ignore this and say i should tweet it. you are the admin of TQ. you are suposed to share exclusive posts whether you agree with them or not.

    • sputnik 4 years ago

      Had shared it on FB already. Tweeted and tagged AK fan groups.

      • Baba 4 years ago

        thanks! πŸ˜€ aap bahut aCHE HAIN

  2. Baba 4 years ago

    ritz – no point in disliking my comments silently like a coward. if you are pissed, prove what is wrong in the post πŸ˜‰

  3. AAP 4 years ago

    Baba – I am visiting this post for the first time. And only because my name being mentioned in side panel. I am the last person to care about dislikes and likes/views etc to support my views / opinions.

    I may do wrongs but I never lie. Please dont point fingers when you are not sure. I have not even read the post.

    • Baba 4 years ago

      is it? you are one of the usual suspects πŸ˜€

      • AAP 4 years ago

        Somehow I have always been πŸ™‚

  4. mgt 4 years ago

    This movie lost around 25 cr to the distributors.

    All this talk about Baby 2 is to hide that fact and in a way change public perception on this movie and move on.

    IBN-CNN ran a program on all movies for Jan and the losses incurred. They were named and famed industry traders/ exhibitors incl komal nahat who were on camera so i think they will not lie.

    There is no doubt movie was excellent but a large section of people avoided this due to to fear of jingoistic flavor.

    Akki too is not very keen on these type of movie more as he does not want to become another Sunny Deol who is jobless doing such jingoistic stuff.

    • Baba 4 years ago

      What is the proof for 25 cr? Show me a link. Komal nahta is against niche films n he was against baby since day 1. I have seen all his videos n nevrr once he talked abt its actual costs or revenues. So show me links or videos for ur points. Otherwise u hv to take wht i hv posted as real

  5. halakoo 4 years ago

    oh i think u forget to mention 7 years inflation and also baby bo is just 80 cr as per boi,

  6. mgt 4 years ago

    Yeah sure. In fact in the last 10 mins i have been searching for that link of IBN-cnn entertainment section video. Or was it NDTV entertainment?

    But I was also surprised to see those people talking like that. It was not about Baby only but all Jan releases starting with Tevar /Alone / Baby / DollY ki Doli / Hawaizaada etc. All total it was 100cr + loss.

    Let me get you the link of that video.

    I am surprised why so many movies are being made when they are losing so much money. I am sure there is a lot of black money involved and some sort of behind the scene game is on which converts black to white or vice versa….I am not sure.

    • AAP 4 years ago

      ” I am sure there is a lot of black money involved and some sort of behind the scene game is on which converts black to white or vice versa….I am not sure.”

      You sentence starts with “i am sure” and ends with “i am not sure” πŸ™‚

    • Baba 4 years ago

      lot of black money was involved in PK if you have followed enough news. anyway waiitng for the ndtv/cnn link

      • mgt 4 years ago

        Sorry Baba I give up. Searched enough though I will continue to find the link of that TV show and will put it up when I get. It was either CNN IBN E lounge or NDTV and it was at least 10-12 days back.

        @You sentence starts with β€œi am sure” and ends with β€œi am not sure” πŸ™‚

        Ha ! The ‘ i am not sure” was for changing black money to white money or white money to black.
        Indian financial system is very twisted and people have weird needs at times and change white to black too depending what they want to show in their balance sheet.

        PK I would say due to involvement of Vidhu Vinod Chopra there is no doubt it is clean money. He is a Kashmiri pandit and BJP type and a core nationalist for god sake !!!

        • Baba 4 years ago

          since you could not come up, now you have to take what i have written as true

          • mgt 4 years ago

            Okay I will consider your figures true until I am able to find that link.

            But Baba in view of your extreme dislike for aamir and the β€˜Khandaan’ I wish to bring to your notice about the box-office collections in 2014. The total net earnings on Indian box-office was around 1400 cr out of which 800 cr was from the 3 Khan movies itself and rest 600 cr from other actors.

            This works to around 60pct of Indian box office earnings but if you take the overseas then the gap jumps to 75pct. Something for all of us to chew on !!

          • Baba 4 years ago

            ‘’ I wish to bring to your notice about the box-office collections in 2014. The total net earnings on Indian box-office was around 1400 cr out of which 800 cr was from the 3 Khan movies itself and rest 600 cr from other actors.”

            I dont care about it. not a single rupee wil come to me from that. i paid 300 rs for kick and had to see it twice (dont ask why) so mera to loss hi hua hai bcos the film was crap. pk was my fav film of 2014 and i saw it twice in theatre again. i am supporting baby bcos i liked it and i saw there was usual mis-reporting for baby from khan pr blog BOI and there was an attempt from some quarters to make it look like a non performer by giving imaginary inflated budget figures and not considering non-theatricla reveneus.

          • MGT 4 years ago

            I am still unable to find the ibn-cnn clip of losses incurred. But here is an interesting article on the biz done in jan/feb.

            http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/weak-start-for-bollywood-in-2015-115022300043_1.html

            Independent analyst Komal Nahta says the bad run in the first one-and-a-half months is a function of content not clicking and pricing going wrong. He says Baby, for instance, has done good business. But its cost is too high. So here is a movie that has a niche appeal, but priced as a movie with universal appeal. So, the numbers do not add up and despite doing Rs 90 crore, the movie is not commercially successful.

          • MGT 4 years ago

            Girish Johar @girishjohar Β· 13h 13 hours ago
            Seeing its economics, #Badlapur is poised to be the 1st safe / +ve film of 2015, hope it sustains well today @Varun_dvn @humasqureshi

            another confirmation Baby was not profitable.

          • Baba 4 years ago

            Girish is boi agent. He is not a separate entity

  7. AAP 4 years ago

    Talking about remakes and sequels I hope Agent Vinod has a sequel. It was a sleek and nice film.

  8. mgt 4 years ago

    Fair enough though I don’t believe in this misreporting since Akshay is a powerful name in Bollywood and no one will mess around with him.

    Baby was a fantastic movie but it is not a family movie to rake in big numbers. On the budget it seemed like an expensive movie so may doubts are on that front about being a profitable venture.

    I don’t know how you could watch PK twice. In the middle the movie got very boring on that ‘wrong number’ crap. Anushka was terrible in the movie due to her bloated lips which was another distraction since she had considerable lengthy role. Aamir i agree acted well and for the first time did better than the movie itself.

    Sushant was so fresh and endearing though I wish they had avoided that cringworthy pakistani sequence.

  9. hithere 4 years ago

    Some nitpicking (even these should be taken with pinch/bucket of salt)..

    1. Baby budget is somewhere in between 50-60.
    http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baby-tuesday-5-days-collection-box-office-akshay-kumar-starrer-racing-towards-100-cr-mark-621716

    http://www.addatoday.com/2015/01/baby-movie-box-office-prediction-hit-or.html
    TSeries produced and distributed, so no middlemen.

    Ghajini Budget is 45 crore.
    the lump sum 90 (sold price)has PP cost. It Domestic theatrical was valued for 40 crore and additional 13-14 crore for PP.

    http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2008-02-15/news/27698704_1_distribution-rights-ghajini-aamir-khan

    http://www.bollywoodmantra.com/news/ghajini-sold-for-71-crore-not-90-crore/3682/

    http://www.afaqs.com/news/story/23031_The-marketing-of-Ghajini

    • sputnik 4 years ago

      Indian box office reports should always be taken with a bucket of salt πŸ™‚

    • Baba 4 years ago

      the satellite and other non-theatrical revenues are deducted from 90 cr which explains that they were a part of it.

  10. sputnik 4 years ago

    I can take the same links in the post and come up with different results πŸ˜‰ So here I go.

    ————–

    “Cost – 60 cr (link 1) + 10 cr Pnp = 70 cr”

    Link 1 says cost is 60 Cr but link 2 says cost is 58 Cr. Don’t know the source for 10 cr Pnp but link 2 says its 15 Cr.

    So from link 2

    Cost – 58 cr (link 2) + 15 cr Pnp (link2) = 73 cr

    Even if rest of the things remain same this will knock 3 Cr from the profit.

    So the profit will only be 5 Cr.

    And if I use 60 from link 1 as budget and 15 from link 2 cost will be 75 cr and this will knock 2 cr more from the profit.

    Cost – 60 cr (link 1) + 15 cr Pnp (link2) = 75 cr

    So the profit will only be 3 Cr.

    And since Ghajini’s profit is 4 Cr (according to this post) Baby’s profits (3 Cr) are less than Ghajini’s profits πŸ™‚

    This was just looking at the cost. The final collections are all over the place depending on what one wants to believe. They are approx 80 cr nett acc to BOI, 91.49 Cr acc to bollywoodhungama. Link 3 says 92.40 crores. Link 4 says 95 crore + nett.

    Link 4 which is talking about 95 Crore + nett says

    “Makers of Baby are set to recover their investment and make some decent profit when non-theatrical revenues are taken into count. As for distributors who have brought the rights for high price will entitle loses from the film. Overall film is a Semi Hit at box office.”

    Indicine which has been used as link 2 has done a final collections report and according to them Baby is Above Average.

    http://www.indicine.com/movies/bollywood/baby-total-box-office-collections-in-india-overseas-worldwide/

    But they themselves said in link 2 that “If Baby collections more than 90-95 crore – Hit” So they are now contradicting themselves πŸ™‚

    I am sure the same exercise can be repeated with those Ghajini links to increase/decrease the profits based on whatever one wants to do.

    That’s why this is all a exercise in futility. Indian box office reports are a joke and should always be taken with a bucket of salt. Just like Indian Awards the box office collections are also only for entertainment πŸ™‚

    • Baba 4 years ago

      ” Indian box office reports are a joke and should always be taken with a bucket of salt.”

      the basic aim of the post was to show that only. the bwhungama link of ghajini has two different lifetime one is 115 cr (old figure) , the updated one is 95.97 cr . bwhungama is generally believed to quote official numbers which are 20 cr lower than BOI numbers for ghajini πŸ˜€

      • hithere 4 years ago

        that 95.95 is from reported centers. BH/IndiaFM used to post some center numbers each week (believed to be trade guide and not complete list of centers). They have stopped doing so and now report producer numbers.

        • Baba 4 years ago

          yes. checked it for other films

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