Check out this iconic scene from the movie When Harry Met Sally written by Nora Ephron.
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Tense scene awkward situation for any male.
When Harry Met Sally had some smart lines.
“Harry Burns: I’ve been doing a lot of thinking, and the thing is, I love you.
Sally Albright: What?
Harry Burns: I love you.
Sally Albright: How do you expect me to respond to this?
Harry Burns: How about, you love me too.
Sally Albright: How about, I’m leaving. ”
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“Harry Burns: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally Albright: Why not?
Harry Burns: What I’m saying is – and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form – is that men and women can’t be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally Albright: That’s not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry Burns: No you don’t.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: No you don’t.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: You only think you do.
Sally Albright: You say I’m having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry Burns: No, what I’m saying is they all WANT to have sex with you.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: How do you know?
Harry Burns: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally Albright: So, you’re saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry Burns: No. You pretty much want to nail ’em too.
Sally Albright: What if THEY don’t want to have sex with YOU?
Harry Burns: Doesn’t matter because the sex thing is already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of the story.
Sally Albright: Well, I guess we’re not going to be friends then.
Harry Burns: I guess not.
Sally Albright: That’s too bad. You were the only person I knew in New York. ”
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“Harry Burns: Would you like to have dinner?… Just friends.
Sally Albright: I thought you didn’t believe men and women could be friends.
Harry Burns: When did I say that?
Sally Albright: On the ride to New York.
Harry Burns: No, no, no, I never said that… Yes, that’s right, they can’t be friends. Unless both of them are involved with other people, then they can… This is an amendment to the earlier rule. If the two people are in relationships, the pressure of possible involvement is lifted… That doesn’t work either, because what happens then is, the person you’re involved with can’t understand why you need to be friends with the person you’re just friends with. Like it means something is missing from the relationship and why do you have to go outside to get it? And when you say “No, no, no it’s not true, nothing is missing from the relationship,” the person you’re involved with then accuses you of being secretly attracted to the person you’re just friends with, which you probably are. I mean, come on, who the hell are we kidding, let’s face it. Which brings us back to the earlier rule before the amendment, which is men and women can’t be friends.”
I will try to post these scenes if I find them.
there is nothing smart about these lines
“men and women can’t be friends because the sex part always gets in the way” is a iconic observation probably made for the first time or at least made popular on a huge level for the first time. This one statement is the genesis of The Deal episode from Seinfeld and the two movies that you recently liked No Strings Attached and Freinds with Benefits.
And the second conversation starts off saying they can be friends if they are involved with other people but then he elaborates on it and comes back to his original point that men and women can’t be friends. That’s what is smart about it.
Yes your point about the scene being “out of sync with the character of sally” is right. But it is iconic because it brought it out for the first time in popular culture that women fake orgasms.
Again a Movie I find to be Average/Mediocre.
I hv seen much more Better Pure Romantic Movies den WHMS.
But but but….I Superlove the 1st Half an Hour of the Movie(wen dey 1st meet) a lott lot lot.
Infact, dat half hour is d best part f d Movie bcz rest all i found it Crap & Boring!
The only other thing I liked abt it is of coz *I will have what she is having*
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Remembering Nora Ephron: The real story behind that famous ‘When Harry Met Sally’ line
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/remembering-nora-ephron-real-story-behind-famous-harry-180055092.html
It’s Not that I dint Undrstnd the Mature Romance bit but c’mon…WHMS is way too Mediocre fr me!
(500) Days, ESOSM, Walk to Remembr, Titanic over it anyday!
Even CASABLANCA..!!
“Of all the Gin Joints in the World, she walKs into mine”
“I think this is a start of a Beautiful frndship(coming right at the end f the Movie)”
What Style & Panaché.
Incidentally, dat line of Casablanca was used in WHMS and dey rightly called it the Best Ending Line f a Movie ever.
I have not seen 500 Days. I have seen ESOSM and think I liked it but I don’t remember it much. Walk to Remember was ok nothing great – movies like this come on Lifetime channel. Titanic was standard love story and then it was all about the ship going down.
Yes Casablanca is great and its a classic.
Read the lines from the movie above and you may realize how smart the writing is. When Harry Met Sally is not some love fantasy where they are dying or sacrificing their lives for each other or anything like that. Its about regular people. The scene that I posted above is a iconic scene because it probably brought out for the first time in a movie that women fake orgasms. This scene was the basis of a whole episode in Seinfeld. Its a part of pop culture.
agreed. It is a subtle romance.
Secret in Their Eyes – is not a romantic movie but I like the romance portrayed in it,
i loved “A Walk to Remember” , “Titanic”, “Notebook”, “No Strings Attached”, “when Harry met Sally”, “Sweet November”, “Pretty Woman”, “ESOSM”, “Before Sunset” and “Before Sunrise” but didn’t like Casablanca as it looked cliched and old… If i had seen it in younger days, i might have liked Casablanca…
See Sputnik,Baba,Shilu….
FS Bhai calls ‘Casablanca’ cliched & ‘Clockwork Orange’ Crap!
That’s what Opinions can do to you but World tells us to Respect every Opinion.
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Serenzy – Its my opinion and I am not enforcing my views over others and not even debating with other members teaching them why one should like or one shouldn’t like, the way some memebers do 😉
Cassablanca–The film that is the foundation stone for romantic stories.
A Clockwork Orange– The film that made weird look beautiful,possibly the best in these matters after Fellini’s Satyricon!
Yes they are crap and Sallu’s Boduguard is greatest film ever madePhewww!
I was Amazed to see the Idea of ‘Imposing’ Good Morals in CO.
Hats off to Kubrick for providing it in sucha Graphic/Wierd Manner.
Alex DeLarge remains ICONIC!
The Guy has No Morals and Unabashedly Flaunts it…Rapes, has Sex, thunders over his Meek Parents.
CO is the Only Kubrick Movie I hv watchd till date btw.
Sputnik,
Nora Ephron passed away today??
🙁
Yesterday.
Finally saw this movie. its just a normal pointless chickflick. though i think a lot of other chickflicks took inspiration from the film both in hindi and english movies. I think kajol is inspired a lot by meg ryan. she overacts like her quite often. the guy playing harry is decent. i cant believe ppl who trash before sunrise and priase this. both are essentially similar films with pointless discussions between hero and herione aimed at soft males. 😀
I knew you wouldn’t like it and you probably already saw its Hindi version Hum Tum. Yes its a chick flick but When Harry Met Sally happens over a longer period of time where the character’s outlook changes. It doesn’t happen in one night and she doesn’t get off a train because some guy asked her out. And the conversations are comic observations of general male and female behavior and not some pseudo intellectual conversations like this.
“Celine: Yeah.
Jesse: OK, well this was my thought: 50,000 years ago, there are not even a million people on the planet. 10,000 years ago, there’s, like, two million people on the planet. Now there’s between five and six billion people on the planet, right? Now, if we all have our own, like, individual, unique soul, right, where do they all come from? You know, are modern souls only a fraction of the original souls? ‘Cause if they are, that represents a 5,000 to 1 split of each soul in the last 50,000 years, which is, like, a blip in the Earth’s time. You know, so at best we’re like these tiny fractions of people, you know, walking… I mean, is that why we’re so scattered? You know, is that why we’re all so specialized?
Celine: I don’t know. Wait a minute, I’m not sure… I don’t…
Jesse: Yeah, hang on, hang on. It’s a, it’s a totally scattered thought. It… which is kind of why it makes sense.”
“Celine: I believe if there’s any kind of God it wouldn’t be in any of us, not you or me but just this little space in between. If there’s any kind of magic in this world it must be in the attempt of understanding someone sharing something. I know, it’s almost impossible to succeed but who cares really? The answer must be in the attempt.”
“Jesse: I don’t know, I think that if I could just accept the fact that my life is supposed to be difficult. You know, that’s what to be expected, then I might not get so pissed-off about it and I’ll just be glad when something nice happens.”
“Jesse: I mean, just once, I’d love to see, some little old lady save up all her money, to go to the fortune teller, and she’d get there, all excited about hearing her future, and the woman would say, “Um-humm. Tomorrow, and all your remaining days will be exactly like today. A tedious collection of hours. And you will have no new passions, and no new thoughts and no new travels, and when you die, you’ll be completely forgotten.”
“Jesse: This friend of mine had a kid, and it was a home birth, so he was there helping out and everything. And he said at that profound moment of birth, he was watching this child, experiencing life for the first time, I mean, trying to take its first breath… all he could think about was that he was looking at something that was gonna die someday. He just couldn’t get it out of his head. And I think that’s so true, I mean, all – everything is so finite. But don’t you think that that’s what, makes our time, at specific moments, so important?”
yes, may be the conversations in before sunrise were worse.
The scene that you call iconic in the post is totally overrated. its out of sync with the character of sally. she is shown to be reserved woman who doesnt speak much and then she suddenly does this loudly in front of everyone in restaurant when it was not really needed to.