‘All Time Blockbuster’?

The ‘All Time Blockbuster’ is a much misused and abused term within Bollywood trade. The term was coined to describe those rare few occasions when a movie generates business at a much higher level than previously generated. By that definition, the list of the true-blue ‘All Time Blockbusters’ is quite exclusive:

1957 – Mother India (4 cr)
1960 – Mughal-E-Azam (5.5 cr)
1975 – Sholay (15 cr)
1994 – Hum Aap Ke Hain Koun (70 cr)
2009 – 3 Idiots (200 cr)

However, every time a movie manages to reach the business level generated by the previous ‘All Time Blockbuster’, we witness partisan claims that try to over-hype it by touting it as the next one in the list.

It was the case when movies like Maine Pyar Kiya (1989) and Aankhen (1993) managed to do 14 cr nett domestic business after 14 years and 18 years respectively since Sholay made 15 cr in the domestic market.

The same was true with movies like Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge (61 cr), Raja Hindustaani (48 cr) or Kuch Kuch Hota Hai (45 cr) – none of which were even marginally close to the mammoth 70 cr business generated by Hum Aap Ke Hain Koun. When Gadar managed to finally go past that milestone and made 75 cr total after 7 years in 2001, it was again pompously promoted as another ‘All Time Blockbuster’.

Most of the high grossing films of recent times – Krrish, Dhoom 2, Om Shanti Om, Ghajini or Dabangg, hardly had the collections to justify such claims. Same holds true for Ek Tha Tiger (199 cr) or Chennai Express (218 cr till date), which managed to come close or finally go past 3 Idiots’ 202 cr after 3-4 years.

Even if Krrish 3 and Dhoom 3 manages to deliver as per their high expectations and collect 300 cr each – it will not suffice for either to be termed as ‘All Time Blockbuster’. In today’s money, a film will need to go north of 400 cr domestic nett to justify that tag.

That is not an easy task, and Chennai Express is just half way there.

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127 Comments
  1. Reddemon 6 years ago

    ‘In todayโ€™s money, a film will needto go north of 400 cr domesticnett to justify that tag’

    Than How is ‘1960 โ€“ Mughal-E-Azam (5.5 cr)’ an ATBB when the diff was 1.5cr that too aftr 3 year??

    • Baba 6 years ago

      thoda to dimaag lagake comment karneka. it is 1957 to 1960 period. how much difference you wanted? 50 cr? a film ticket used to cost 50 new paise that time if i am nt wrong

  2. engineer 6 years ago

    similarly its 2009-10 to 2013 period.how much difference you want?200cr??..
    Chennai express is still running with 220cr+(excpt boi)

    • Baba 6 years ago

      yes there has to be a huge difference today. plexes are growing all the time,avg ticket prices have raised, inflation is shooting up every year.no of prints, screens and so on.

  3. Reddemon 6 years ago

    Dimag toh post likhne wale ko lagana chahiye.

    I am not saying that the diff should be 150cr nor i am talking about the ticket price. Its as simple as, today you want a film to double the collection of previous ATBB after 3-4 years so this should be applicable for previous ATBB too.

    • Baba 6 years ago

      firstly, MEA maintained its record for 15 years.nowhere in the article is it mentioned that you need to double the last atbb to be called atbb. author has probably assumed that 400 cr grosser today will be safe record to be maintained for a few years just like the 3i 200 cr gross was.

      • Reddemon 6 years ago

        LOL dont tell me that they went in future to check that MEA is holding the record for 15yrs so lets give it ATBB tag.
        I dont consider 3I as an ATBB either. Only Sholay and HAHK are ATBB’s for me.

        • Baba 6 years ago

          sholay maintained its record for 20 years.hahk did for 7 years. so did the trade went into the future to give the verdicts for those films?

          • Reddemon 6 years ago

            They broke previous record by huge margin unlike MEA

          • Baba 6 years ago

            how do you know 1.5 crores difference is smaller in 1957-1960? especially when in retrospect you observe that no film coudl break it for 15 years.its a strong evidence that the 1.5 cr difference was actually huge.

            but you cannot make this case for ce.you dont even need to wait for retrospection.because the difference between 3i and cE is 4-5 cr at max after 4 years and as of 2013. now if you stil go ahead and say its similar to MEA then i suggest you go back to school and read economics.

          • ank_16n 6 years ago

            @Reddemon

            MEA out grossed Mother India by about 40% after 3 years to gain tag of ATBB…….
            what has CE done outgrossed 3 Idiots by 3%….is 40% == 3% in ur maths????

          • Reddemon 6 years ago

            No. My maths is 3%= 55%.

            Hope everything is fine in your hometown Pagalpur.

          • ank_16n 6 years ago

            yes every thing fine in paglapur just that trying to make it G.one free….the diease is spreading u know na ๐Ÿ˜› ๐Ÿ˜€

  4. Suprabh 6 years ago

    Even by this theory..

    there are only 3 ATBB

    Sholay

    HAHK

    3 IDIOTS

  5. Suprabh 6 years ago

    Personally I feel HAHK and Sholay are biggest blockbusters of all time… Dont know which is the bigger between them..

    I think Gadar was a major blockbuster because of the number of people who watched it…It had very low ticket prices.

    • Baba 6 years ago

      yes, gadars euphoria is probably due to its phenomenal collections in the small centres and many of those may have been depleted today.it outgrossed hahk after a good 7 years.

  6. engineer 6 years ago

    chennai express ki success dekh kar sbki jal rhi h…aur kyu na jale..ce is the first indian film to gross 400cr+ ww..

  7. engineer 6 years ago

    sholay ko cross krne me hahk ko 20 saal lag gye..srk ne ce k sath ye sirf 3 salo me kr diya..

    • Suprabh 6 years ago

      4 saalon mein 5 filmein bhi lag gayi ๐Ÿ˜†

    • Baba 6 years ago

      why not see it from this perspective – ghajini ko cross karne mein srk ko 6 saal lag gaye ๐Ÿ˜†

  8. sputnik 6 years ago

    If a movie has to double the collections from 200 Cr to 400 Cr in 4 years how much should have a movie done after almost 20 years? HAHK should have done 150 Cr after approx 20 years to be a ATBB. By this logic HAHK is not a ATBB either. Same way Mughal-e-Azam has to almost double the 4 Cr not do 1.5 more after 3 years.

    As far as ticket price increase is concerned they have always increased every 2 years or so. HAHK’s ticket prices increased from 10 Rs to 35 Rs in my place. There is no way it would have done 69 Cr if it was not for that. There was no way 3I would have crossed 200 Cr if ticket prices had not increased.

    • Baba 6 years ago

      i am not sure where the “double the last atbb” theory is coming from.its most probably a reasonable assumption in the article to suggest that perhaps a 400 cr grosser wont be outgrossed easily in the next few years. ofc none of us know what the real market potential is. one thing though is certain, ce lifetime gross is no comparison to what 3i did in 2009. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • sputnik 6 years ago

        The double the last ATBB is an inference from the article because he says a movie has to make 400 Cr to be a considered a ATBB just 4 years after the previous ATBB. This 400 Cr random number for a ATBB is no different from the trending theory which said that ETT was a flop despite it being the second highest grosser ever after 3I.

        If MEA was not out grossed for 15 years or Sholay for almost 20 years it could also be because other movies that released during those time periods were not good enough or not liked enough by everyone. What if Sholay released the year after MEA or the year after Mother India? What if HAHK released the year after Sholay?

        If we take Mother India’s 4 Cr as great then Sholay should have done more than 32 Cr in 18 years. So Sholay is not a ATBB either. The first 1 Cr grosser was Kismet in 1943 and Mother India did 4 times of that after 14 years. Even that is not a ATBB. And since Kismet was equaled in just one year by Ratan its not a ATBB either. So there are no ATBB in Hindi Cinema ๐Ÿ™‚

        Anyway the term ATBB just like Movie Marvel of the year or Super Duper Blockbuster are nonsensical terms created by trade analysts which are only used in India. If a movie is A True Blockbuster then it implies that other movies which are considered as Blockbusters are false Blockbusters – meaning they are not even Blockbusters ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • Baba 6 years ago

          it is ok if you dont agree with his random number of 400 cr but you must also not agree that CE business is same as an atbb when it is going to make only 4-5 cr more than 3i which came 4 years ago ,in todays time.

          there are only rare few films which cud be called atbb which the author has listed. the term lost its meaning when many other films with not so phenomenal BO were given this verdict by the trade, may be to please the stars or they were paid.

          • sputnik 6 years ago

            Yes CE beating 3I by only 4-5Cr after 4 years is not that great. But lets say that every masala movie from now on flops like Himmatwala and every potential ATBB like Dhoom 3 and Krrish 3 turn out to be like Ra.One and CE’s record stands for the next 6-7 years then would CE be ATBB?

            The author is saying “The term was coined to describe those rare few occasions when a movie generates business at a much higher level than previously generated.” But he has MEA which did not even do 1.5 times of Mother India despite being the costliest production of its time. He has Mother India which was beaten in just 3 years and 3I which has been beaten in 4 years implying their business was not that huge to begin with.

            Coming to the Cricket and Sachin analogy Saeed Anwar’s 194 record stood for 12 years but Sachin’s 200 record was broken in just one and a half year. So Saeed Anwar’s 194 is greater than Sachin’s 200?

            As far as BOI is concerned their reason not to give CE ATBB verdict is inconsistent. They have given Jai Santoshi Maa (5cr) ATBB verdict when it did not even cross MEA after 15 years. They have MPK at 14 cr as ATBB 14 years after Sholay despite doing less. They also have Ram Teri Ganga Maili as ATBB despite it doing 5.5 Cr less than Sholay.

            http://www.boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=124&catName=MTk3MC0xOTc5

            http://www.boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=125&catName=MTk4MC0xOTg5

          • Baba 6 years ago

            “But lets say that every masala movie from now on flops like Himmatwala and every potential ATBB like Dhoom 3 and Krrish 3 turn out to be like Ra.One and CEโ€™s record stands for the next 6-7 years then would CE be ATBB?”

            no , that is some wishful thinking ๐Ÿ˜‰ MEA makin only 1.5 cr more than mother india in 1960 is not the same as CE makin 4 cr more than 3i in 2013. as i said in some comment, the ticket price that time was 50 np or somethin.
            regradless of how the subequent movies perform, we for sure know ce is not an atbb based on our knowledge of basic economics. CE performance is may be like dhoom2 which was the biggest grosser of its time but not a phenomenal outgrosser to gadar/hahk and its record was there till 2 years.

            anyway if you dont want to agree that mea is not a atbb, thats ok with me as long as you agree that ce is nt an atbb and sholay,hahk are ๐Ÿ˜€

  9. Syed imran 6 years ago

    Ce ki success hazam nahi ho rahi hain… Isliye new atbb ke rules nikal rahe hain… Jiyo srk jiyo… Wit the increase in ur haters lists nd posts increases ur popularity nd fame nd above all ur fan base too…

    New rules, if any do mention in new threads..!!!woh rules tod kar bhi new records banayega SRK!!!

    Happy new rules!!

  10. saurabh 6 years ago

    In disagreement with author, even his comments are not convincing.. I think gadar should be in that list… Even if u consider inflation gadar is on 2nd after hahk, 3 idiots is on 3rd..
    Btw except boi nd some, everbody accepted as CE as atbb,
    One funny thing about arguement of author, he says a movie is atbb if that maintained its record for 2-4 years, now wen sholay or mea come then I guess trade pundits must be seeing future too, like somebody must have said “ohh I can see future, its record can not be broken in next 2-4 years so it is a atbb, or Its record will be broken just after 2 months, so it is not atbb”
    Like how can sombody predict future, like if CE somehow managed(lets assume), its record for 2 years so then after 2 year, will author declare it is a atbb. So I guess there is a flaw in argument. Sorry I didn’t find it quite logical.
    I guess a movie’s collection should be adjusted to inflation.. I dnt buy ticket price argument, as if people are willing to pay more for the film, if ticket prices are higher, then it may happen some people will nt go to watch movie, or if ticket prices are nt higher or lower then more people will go to watch a movie.. I remember during gadar, many watched movie by pirated cd in huge numbers(more than for any other movie)(atleast it happened in my town)..
    Now come to comment that SRK took 6 years to break the record of Gajni, lets put it like Aamir took more than 15 years to break the record of ddlj, fact is that Aamir was never no. 1 if u look at Bo, before mnik SRK rules, then Salman rules b4 CE(even after Ra one, if u just said superstar then in ur subconcious 3 or 4 name including SRK would have popped out ), nd now it may be debatable to many(I feel Salman is still no. 1 if u think of Bo power), (for India only),
    Main bat ye hai k SRK haters nd lovers ki aankho pe ek parda rhta h, jisme se wahi dikhta h jo wo dekhna chahte hain.
    Author in some othet post commented something like yjhd is a blockbuster because nobody was thinking of its doing business of 150 cr, then some guy poster that even about CE, the case is the same(except krk), so above thing says all..
    Having said all that, I dnt think CE is atbb, but gadar surely is..

  11. saurabh 6 years ago

    Btw I don’t know why there was no atbb related post wen boi declared dabang atbb, ohh I got it that was not SRK movie… Keep doing it… As in a way it shows how much SRK affect our subconciousness or our thinking or our life.. Keep it up…

  12. Suprabh 6 years ago

    saurabh,

    I dont agree to your 2-3 months logic.

    When Sachin was in the hunt for scoring maximum centuries, so were Mark Waugh and Saeed anwar..and it went around quite a lot that someone was ahead at some point of time…but it was only a considerable number of years later that Sachin surpassed everyone by a distance that he was considered an impeccable and irrefutable legend (similar to ATBB) ..Time has got to be a factor…I think what the author is trying to say here is that, ATBB has to be a film which did unthinkable business for its time. A film that was meritorious enough to demand that rerun from the audience or that sort of WOM from the audience…hence the collection.

    3 idiots did in half the number of screens and lesser ticket price to what CE did today 4 years later…hence the difference

    • Baba 6 years ago

      comepltely agree with the sachin analogy

    • saurabh 6 years ago

      firts i didn’t get whta u couldn’t understand 2-3 months logic, and were i gave logic about 2-3 months. i guess then u couldn’t completely understand my point of view.

      now seeing on author’s argument I never get the feel that he is trying to say” I think what the author is trying to say here is that, ATBB has to be a film which did unthinkable business for its time. A film that was meritorious enough to demand that rerun from the audience or that sort of WOM from the audienceโ€ฆhence the collection”

      if that is the argument then i can agree, but his arguments has flaw, the things u said, i am agreeing with that.

      btw if u have read my comment, then i said CE is not atbb, and i said he should mention GADAR as atbb, even in his arguments he mentioned many times about gadar. Please read my comment carefully.

      now come to 3I, i know it is atbb, were i have said its not, and if you look at the ticket price and screen argument, then think like that too, in recent times, many movies are releasing, scenario is that even big starts movie are clashing, so in today time, to get the effect of 3I record it has to be released on more no of screens, because u know in a week or 2, a new movie will come, which was not the case during 3I.
      after 3I, i guess after 2 weeks only small movie started to release and a big movie released after 4 weeks. and all movies were like flop from the start. they were not like OUTIM2 and satyagrah, so now is high time to make profit a movie should get a wider release, so that at least people can see the movie, and higher ticket price also covered in this part and some part about higher ticket price i mentioned in my previos comment.
      so please think from 360 degree..

      btw the way author made arguments, it has flaw, about just atbb thing, if authro says that what u said, then i can agree, and in my view Gadar should be included, arguements i already given in my comment, i can not comment about mea, as i was not born at that time to comment, btw author commented its ticket priced at 50 paisa, so i dnt buy that comment, because i am not sure about the authenticity of the ticket price. but if you go by that theory, i feel the movie was made on that much big budget, with 3 great stars, (even i guess ra one hype at our time would be less than mea hype at that time) so i dnt think its atbb..

  13. phoenix 6 years ago

    If CE wasn’t an SRK starrer, with this decision of BOI, hell would have broken loose. Opinions would have originated from all corner that, SRK paid money to undermine success of CE. ๐Ÿ™‚

  14. Anjanpur685Miles 6 years ago

    Deepika’s name appears first in CE?

    Then why is shahrukh making posters with only his face on all these posters releasing now with collections on them?

  15. rajesh 6 years ago

    While I do agree that ATBB should not be used too frequently (as per Taran even BG, ETT are ATBB), considering only collection may not always be a good idea. Suppose, a film today made at a budget of 200 crs do a business of 250 crs surpassing CE by 35 odd crs, should we call that movie ATBB. Other factors also need to be taken into account apart from collection while declaring any movie ATBB. While giving ATBB status to Dabangg is debatable, it almost sold similar no. of tickets as was sold by 3I inspite of having 60 crs less collection. Gadar created havoc when released specially in smaller centres with much less ticket price. DDLJ is still considered SRK’s biggest film even after CE and unleashed an era of romantic films.
    Anyways, with CE, SRK has for the first time highest grosser of all time in his name, though, it may not remain even for one year.

  16. sunil 6 years ago

    I am surprised that some think ce is atbb.ce is not atbb.Only hahk,gadar,3i are atbb in recent times.ce will be outgrossed this year itself.An atbb has to be some big blockbuster which is way above previous biggest hits.atbb depend on content though.Stardom itself is not enough to get that.

    • hithere 6 years ago

      I think Rowdy Rathore was ATBB. It costed peanuts and it did great business.

  17. yakuza 6 years ago

    Apart from everything else, one thing which irritates me is the Collections of old movies taken so confidently from BOI for comparison … There is no source on this earth which can tell actual collections of movies before 1990 … Filminformation tracked selected centers and that too for few months only.

    BOI adjusted 1990 onwards movies with re-run collections with straightforward formulae of 15% increased collections of every movie (Check their collections in 2005 which was taken from FI, they increased in 2007-08 I guess).

    For movies before 1990 .. BOI once added re-run collections of only Sholay (Total 29 Crore Nett) .. but remove later to get in consistent with other movies. But problem is Many movies of old times which ran for much longer time has no accountability anywhere, leave re-runs .. even first run of movie was not tracked after few months …

    Anyways .. Distributor share of Sholay was 22 Crore and Mother India was 5 Crore .. this is now given in inner pages of BOI …

    “For eg Mother India (1957) gave a distributor share of 5 crore but over 30 years and Sholay (1975) gave 22 crore share over a similar period.” .. http://www.boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=323&catName=QWJvdXQgSW5mbGF0aW9uIERhdGE=

    This is unfortunate that every other source blindly take 15 Crore collections of Sholay or 4 Crore of Mother India from BOI main page which is not true in reality.

  18. yakuza 6 years ago

    And this is where BOI self admitted including re-run collections for movie after 1990 .. but not before that ..

    “Even in recent history (1990) a Ghayal (1990) and Dil (1990) are released on the same day and over the first six months Dil (1990) is around 25-30% ahead but looking at business ten years later in 2000 it is similar as Ghayal (1990) was hugely successful in re-runs. This is why it is difficult to adjust films prior to 1995 and adjusting to the year of release gives a false picture. The attempt is to compare like for like.”

    http://www.boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=323&catName=QWJvdXQgSW5mbGF0aW9uIERhdGE=

  19. Anjanpur685Miles 6 years ago

    Any film to match Sholey in today’s time, it has to do minimum 250cr distributor share IMO.

  20. yakuza 6 years ago

    With 250 DS .. even HAHK would not be matched.

  21. yakuza 6 years ago

    I am yet to see any middle class family in India who have not seen HAHK in theater .. some families saw even 2-3 times .. this completely Kiddish to compare such humungous success of Sholay and HAHK to likes to CE or Dabangg ..

    • phoenix 6 years ago

      But Yakuza, That era of movie watching is over. The world works in a different way now. My sis, watched DDLJ in a theatre, along with her friends, after every finishing every paper of her tough medical semester exams. 5 or 6 times before her exams got over. Because… No cable TV in her hostel, no cell phone, no other way to destress. But current times have changed. Even, when compared to 90s, things have changed so much. Movies aren’t the only source of entertainment now. So, comparisons need to be scaled in to fit into the current scenario.

      • yakuza 6 years ago

        That is what we call a unthinkable ATBB … When Sholay came, no one could ever imagine a movie which would not only be a household name and Bible of Bollywood,but also will be seen at theaters for not 2-3 .. but almost 15-20 years.

        Similarly when HAHK came, industry was at lowest phase .. families almost stopped coming to theater, many theaters were shutting down on regular basis.This was time when Video piracy and Cable TV almost killed theatrical business .. No one could imagine a movie which will sweep the nation and seen by almost every family multiple times.But that unthinkable happen .. and we got next true ATBB after Sholay.

        When Three Idiots released .. No movie able to cross 100 Crore except Ghajini .. 100 Crore was a dream target .. and no one could even think about 200, this was unthinkable .. but that happen .. and this makes 3I another ATBB.

        Now lets wait and watch .. i am sure you will see another out of box success soon .. which will see as much footfalls as HAHK if not Sholay .. 300 or 400 Crore are already thinkable and imagined by many .. but one movie will come which will gross way beyond such figure .. Unthinkable .. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Baba 6 years ago

        yes the 70s,80s, and even 90s hysteria is not possible today. but still in case of the two hirani films lrmb and 3i i saw such craze among ppl. some professionals who wud never visit a theatre in years came to see 3i

        • Suprabh 6 years ago

          some professionals who wud never visit a theatre in years came to see 3i

          I guess same was true for OMg Oh my god too…

          I may be wrong.

  22. Tulmul 6 years ago

    I don’t care about ATBB tags, But Wanna take from where Suprabh left with Cricket Analogy..

    Do we consider every inning played at that give n time Or they are evaluated with passage of time??

    We see everybody saying this is great Inning but later when we evaluate that inning it may not be great.

    Same happens with Movies that become classic, Masterpieces and Cults…

    Revaluation is Norm and wonderful tool to access things be it art or cinema or other domains.

    How can movie becomes ATBB just within week ???

    Has those who issue such fraudulent tags and certificates ever laid out “Baselines” for that???

    Its Just a Whim, Pleasing and licking of few stars and prod houses, IMO.

    A Record which can be broken in months is no record IMO , it means normality and rule but record that holds for certain duration means it was Exception not rule.

    One needs to look at Normality curve before Record Movie came, What was Rule and What Movie did to become exception and did any other movie after its release walked the same distance ??

    A Movie which achieves Maximum at that given moment of time which no other movie before and no movie after ( at least few years) it achieved is ‘Record Movie’

    Records are meant to be broken but we rmbr only those records and sportsperson who hold their record for certain duration and that record at the given moment of time was Exception but not rule…

    Look around in any field same thing stares at us.

    If we look through that metrics, very few films will be certain ‘Record Movies’ But fanship does make world go round and round and I dont have anything to say on that ๐Ÿ™‚

  23. yakuza 6 years ago

    @baba .. “MEA makin only 1.5 cr more than mother india in 1960” … Both wrong collections. Mother India DS was more than 5 Crore .. similarly MEA collections would be bit higher .. Same way Sholay DS was more than 22 Crore .. though No one have even close to accurate collections.

    โ€œFor eg Mother India (1957) gave a distributor share of 5 crore but over 30 years and Sholay (1975) gave 22 crore share over a similar period.โ€ .. http://www.boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=323&catName=QWJvdXQgSW5mbGF0aW9uIERhdGE=

    • Baba 6 years ago

      thanks for the info. so what was the actual gross of MEA, MI and sholay after re-runs?

  24. saurabh 6 years ago

    in agreemnet with yakuza…

  25. yakuza 6 years ago

    @Suprabh .. “in recent times, many movies are releasing, scenario is that even big starts movie are clashing”

    Don’t know how and from where this impression comes that previously there was no clashes and multiple releases in a week ?? In fact now stars carefully chose date for solo release .. this factor was not considered before. If u see history Amitabh clashed with his own movies many times .. Trishul released a week before DON .. Namak Halaam released a week after Desh Premee .. Pukaar released 1 week before Coolie. And there are instances where his two movies released In same week. That was time when apart from other stars movies .. competition comes from their own movies as well .. even Re-run of Hit movies was a challenge sometimes for new released movie. As far as number goes .. Prominent releases was 100+ since 70’s … probably it was same even before.

  26. raj 6 years ago

    shahrukh fans try to pretend they are ‘intelligent’ but looks like most of them dropped off before 5th standard )or wenever percentage is taught)

    mughal e aazam doing 1.50 more than mother india after 3 years is like 40% increase over it and 13% per year – in an era of no ticket price hikes.

    by that logic (at13% per yeaqr) for 4 years chennai express or any film to be at par wit other india needs to do 104 cr more than 3 idiots. so a minimum of 305 cr.

    secondly if at 105 cr CE is an atbb then at 187 cr last year even ETT is an atbb (187+18.7= 205 cr)

    • Baba 6 years ago

      i remember many srk fans evaluating ett solely on the basis of trending thoery and dismissing it. they didnt talk about lifetime collections then

  27. yakuza 6 years ago

    Baba .. No one can accurately tell anything .. But from some print media across, Sholay was around 29 Crore .. Mother India was 7.5 Crore and MEA was around 9 Crore .. I will put scan of Sholay BO tomorrow .. even BOI old pages has same figures if u check archive at waybackmachine.com .. its just that they removed re-run collections of Sholay to be in consistent with other movies of that era ..

    If I remember correctly .. the magazine scan I am talking about saying Sholay did business of 3.5 Crore per territory (This makes 24.5 Crore .. at that time total collections were divided by 7 to put across per territory .. no matter how much money comes from which pocket) .. and later Sholay rights again sold @2.5 crore per territory in early 80’s .. this is what given in magazine scan.

    • hithere 6 years ago

      Yakuza you yourself said data prior to 1990 is not complete, then how come we have accurate data of all the movies. IMO all of them are estimates (Sholay, Kismet, MEA), I don’t know how much error is there in that data. I agree a Magazines might have more information than say BOI and all the new websites but their data is also prone to errors and biases.

      “the magazine scan I am talking about saying Sholay did business of 3.5 Crore per territory (This makes 24.5 Crore ”
      But aren’t territories of different magnitude? As territories were sold to different distributors it doesn’t make sense to talk in average per territory?

  28. yakuza 6 years ago

    BTW Baba .. Maine Pyaar Kiya and DDLJ were All time hits without any doubt .. I am sure u are old enough to witness the nationwide creaze of these movies for months .. Movies which were not all time hits but labeled by media were KKHH and Dabangg .. none of these were comparable to even huge success of Aankhein .. leave apart other true blue Hits.

    • Baba 6 years ago

      nationwide craze cant be the determining factor for a BO verdict. BO works by numbers, not emotions. if one has to judge impact, then even films like deewar and zanjeer will be called atbbs as they were pivotal in finsihing the career of arguably indias biggest star rajesh khanna and lead to a new trend of filmmaking of the “angry young man” for years to come. interestingly none of the amitabh films could better sholay BO even at his peak.

  29. yakuza 6 years ago

    With Nationwide craze I mean everyone was going to theater for movie .. MPK had as much craze as HAHK … its just Video piracy at that time enabled large chunk of repeat audience seeing that movie at home only. This was not the case with HAHK and DDLJ .. both enjoyed piracy free run for more than one year .. HAHK was equipped with security guy with every print and it worked.

    I don’t see even remotely that craze for CE or ETT etc .. these movies are just fast money spinners .. but audience reach was not even fraction of those real all time earners.

  30. yakuza 6 years ago

    @Hithere .. Yes territories are of different magnitude, but in old times just for sake of simplicity, it was fashion to write collections in Amount Per territory in case of all India collections. Initially till 1985/86 there were 7 territories .. later became 9 territories.

    Though there were majority of magazines who report only Bombay collections .. in that case only Bombay specifically was taken. In Old times .. if movie was Hit in Bombay, considered as Hit .. else Flop. Reason was that other territories release was very scattered and not properly tracked.

  31. yakuza 6 years ago

    @Sputnik .. Why my comments don’t come as Reply ?? I am replying to many comments .. but eventually they appear as standalone after posting ..

    • sputnik 6 years ago

      hmm… may be because you are not registered here and commenting without logging in. I can register you and send you a temporary password to your gmail account. Let me know if you want me to do that.

  32. Cinema lover 6 years ago

    @yakuza…I do agree with u KKHH is not HAHK or DDLJ. But still it is atbb and it’s not media made but all trade accepted including IBOS which had correct data of 90s. 45 cr in 1998 is not small amount. That collection have only got surpassed (barring Gadar which is another atbb) after 8 (2006) years when multiplex growth at its peak. U must know about its trending. In Mumbai KKHH in first week 57 lac (100%)second week 57 lac (100%), 3rd week 55 lacs(99%) fourth week 68 lacs fifth week 67 lacs. And trending same every where when BMCM slow down after third week. In centre like akola Ameawati jalgoan movie was running 90 to 100% even after its 5th week. This data was before in ibose they removed in 2006 and u must aware of it. same Mumbai numbers used to published in mid day news paper during 1990. For general superhit movies maximum level of the business was 15-20 cr. Which considered as a huge business like PTHHT, HSSH Soldir Biwi no 1 etc. I will not considered dabang, gajini as atbb because their collection got surpassed within 2-3 years by many movies

  33. raj 6 years ago

    @yakuza – most of wat u r saying is right except 2 points.

    1. sholay collections – u r known to exaggerate sholay collections or anything related to bachchan. sholay had done 1 cr per territory in the 1st year and it was all over the media from filmfare to chitralekha. till 1980 it had done 2 cr per territory. and hence the lifetime of 15 cr. which still remains a huge amount with tickets at 2.50 to 3 rs.

    2. it was in earlier times that a film, even if not a huge hit in mumbai but great in interiors will be declared a hit. there are many examples from jai santoshi ma, to nagina to dada. in fact it was in the 80s (starting withy ankush in 1986 i think) that any film that did well in mumbai was declared a hit, else flop. this reached its peak in the premultiplex era (vaastav in 1999 wud be the ultimate film in this list, a huge flop across the country but did well in mumbai and was declared a success by most sources) sometime in the mid 90s and especially after multiplex the whole thing got skewed in another direction. if a film did well in high nd multiplexes with high ticket price it was declared a hit. this started with ddlj and peaked with 3 idiots.

    thankfully the era of universal hits is coming back slowly. almost all the big hits of last 3 years are unversal hits (worked both in multplexes as well as single screens and both in metros as well as interiors) perhaps with the exception of yeh jawaani hai deewaani. dabangg, golmal 3, bodyguard, ready, ek tha tiger, dabangg 2 and even rowdy rathore have made a lot of money from multiplexes though they are looked at as single screen films. CE has equal acceptance from all kind of audiences so does ashiqui.

    yes the ‘multiplex only film’ or ‘single screen only film’ is there bit never in top 5. from zindagi na milegi dobara nd special 26 to bol bachchan and khilaidi 786 have all wound up uder 100 cr.

    • yakuza 6 years ago

      @Raj .. “sholay had done 1 cr per territory in the 1st year and it was all over the media from filmfare to Chitralekha”

      This is what I can do for you …. Check what has written in highlighted lines below image

      It says Sholay was sold for 28 Lakhs initially and it collected 3.5 Crore per territory. This comes up around 24.5 Crore all India collection. And in 1984 it was sold again for 45 Lakhs .. means 3.15 Crore all India Price. This is obvious Sholay again collected money after 1984 .. a minimum of 6-7 Crore Nett for this deal.

      Now I would like to see your Chitralekha Scan .. ๐Ÿ™‚

        • yakuza 6 years ago

          Wowww this article is something … and proved my point once again. Will read properly in evening and comment .. thnx dude.

        • yakuza 6 years ago

          And its not that BOI don’t accept such facts .. but on hidden pages.

          “Simply the most watched and loved film of Hindi cinema by a distance. Dominated theatres for 25 years with umpteen re-runs. Business in re-runs was on many occasions higher than newly released films of the time.”
          http://boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=350

        • sputnik 6 years ago

          The numbers are wrong for HAHK obviously but even for Sholay in the First Run Business table.

          “This feel-good musical, a marked contrast with Sholay’s violent theme, has been running for 55 weeks, and is expected to do business worth Rs.175 crore. Though inflation and the increased ticket rates make for an uneven comparison, it is estimated that HAHK will double Sholay collections.”

          Since they are saying Sholay’s collections are 35 Cr and that HAHK will double Sholay collections they probably meant 75 Cr and 175 Cr may just be a typo.

          The article says – “Last month Sholay turned 20. And its flames still burn bright. It has already done business of approximately Rs.35 crore.”

          So this is the all time collections but they have 35 Cr in the First Run business table which is obviously not true.

          • hithere 6 years ago

            Read somewhere that it did 4 crore / territory in first run followed by couple of crore. At another place it said 35 and followed by some more crore. My previous comment was precisely that. We just don’t know exact numbers but it was humongous.

            ps – It is Komal http://www.rediff.com/movies/2000/oct/11box.htm

          • yakuza 6 years ago

            Thanks Hithere for one more link proving that Sholay was certainly not 15 Crore only … btw Komal and FI are same .. so India today article and rediff are more or less saying same except that Komal is talking in terms of per territory .. 4 Crore per territory means 28 Crore all india .. and he is saying add couple of more Crores in re-runs .. so certainly it is in range of 35 ..

            Difference between Trade Guide scan and FI/Komal is 50 lacs per territory for first run .. but that is fine given both articles are written in time gap of 15 years.

  34. raj 6 years ago

    @cinemalover – u are into white lies. the 1st week of kkhh can never be 100%. i watched it on diwali evening and the theater was just 40% which is always the case on diwali. i am sure it was the same across all theatres that day. even if one seat in one show is vacant it cant be 100% full and on diwali almost 70% seats go vacant for two shows (6-9 and 9-12) even since morning the collections are low on diwali.

    and since 1st week 100% is false we can safely assume ur data on 2nd and 3rd week are also cooked up.

    kkhh was by no means an ATBB. it did 2/3 of the pervious highest grosser 4 years later (hak’s 70 cr) . thats like a film doing 130 cr today and being declared atbb. yes it is possible for an ashiqui or raaz but not for a big star film like srk’s.

  35. rajesh 6 years ago

    @ raj,

    By any chance, are you Danish.

    • Baba 6 years ago

      LOL. theres a possiblity ๐Ÿ˜€

  36. Cinema lover 6 years ago

    @Raj I can easily say that when I watched 3 idiots on Sunday in theatre It was 30% full. Would u beleive me? Data never lies. And this excuses like Diwali puja, holidays, weekdaYs, single screen, multiplex etc only started post 2006. And yakuza also knows better. Infact KKHH is first movie after khudgerz which did 100% in first 2 weeks. first 5 weeks collections were in the range of 85-95% across India. it’s not necessary KKHH or raja Hindustan have to do similar business of HAHK or Ddlj. Just see volume of the business of these 2 movies which only surpassed after 8 years (except in 2001 which is again atbb). Again I m telling gajini, dabbang, ce r not atbb. 3 idiots should be lowest atbb considering ett and ce collection.
    True all time blockbusters are following based on business, craze, impact etc
    Ratan, kismet, mughl eazam, madame India, sholey, mpk, HAHK and Ddlj
    There r few more atbb based on business, impact, craze or in terms of roi for that particular erasantoshi maa, amar Akbar Anthony, ram Teri ganga maili, ankhe, raja Hindustani, KKHH, gadar and 3 idiots.

  37. Reddemon 6 years ago

    I am not saying that CE is a genuine ATBB but surely a bigger hit that Dabangg, ghajni gadar KKHH, RH. So BOI should call it ATBB if they call the above mentioned movies as ATBB.

  38. Cinema lover 6 years ago

    @reddemon. Ce is definitely bigger than gajini and dabaang But not bigger than gadar, raja Hindustani or KKHH. If any trade says gajini dabaang is atbb then ce should be atbb. But IMO these 3 should be max bb to save pride of virdict “Atbb”. Atbb ka to Mazak banke reh Gaya hai.

  39. Suprabh 6 years ago

    raj,

    how old are you?

  40. yakuza 6 years ago

    @Sputnik .. Okay, please send me password at bolybusiness@gmail.com

  41. yakuza 6 years ago

    @Cinema Lover …. KKHH first four weeks were 100% .. After Mard in 1985, it was KKHH which achieved this feat.

    Apart from Gadar .. KKKG also crossed it in 2-3 years which was not even Blockbuster at that time.

  42. Suprabh 6 years ago

    Don’t you guys think, its a little kiddish of people who are right now in their mid 20s to judge Box office performance or in a broader term- box office phenomenon of movies like sholay or MEA or Mother India.

    the other day I said, I consider Sholay to be the biggest blockbuster– I dont say it based on BOI numbers or some scans that yakuza puts up..I say it because thats what my parents (who themselves were big movie buffs that time) told me..They and their age group people have often brought this immense euphoria of Sholay whenever we discussed and they will go on and on about how massive it was..My dad told me he saw sholay multiple times in theater over multiple years.

    I also said the same thing about HAHK- and that again is based on my personal experience.. The theater where I saw HAHK used to be in shambles but at time of HAHK release it was all renovated…moreover it was a movie that my family decided to see in theaters and not vcr (much later I came to know..that its VHS were not even available)..I was old enough to remember HAHK’s phenomenon and that for how many months it was screening and that we talked about it..

    DDLJ was big too but not as big as HAHK..

    Other films where I experienced the similar Euphoria were Border and Gadar..although nothing compared to HAHK (sholay as I said I have not witnessed myself)

    Just based on BO figures one can’t guage everything..chennai Express is currently the biggest grossing BW film..but does it have that reception?..See it for yourself..it earned all 60% of its total earning in first week…enough said.

    • hithere 6 years ago

      HAHK – in Manju Shri?

      • Suprabh 6 years ago

        No ๐Ÿ™‚

        Sagar cinema in Faridabad

  43. Cinema lover 6 years ago

    @yakuza u r right. K3g has also crossed KKHH after 3 years but this is similar case like ce crossed 3 idiots. Infact k3g got big advantage of solo run, high ticket rate (few multiplex like cinemagic, movie time, Cinemax, suncity, adlab started during that time)Hype generated around this movie was unparalleled. No big movie released around that time. Three superstar, Karan johar after super success of KKHH. Amitabh jaya, srk kajol, hritik Kareena still it has just cross KKHH lifetime collection by very thin margin. K3g have generated 75% of its business from first 5 week itself after that started falling. This was not case with KKHH. Its trending was brillient till 20 eeks with lof of competetions
    When Karan Arjun (29 cr) did more business than ankhe (14 cr) that dosent mean ankhe is not atbb. All these KKHH raja Hindustani, ankhe, 3 idiots are same kind of atbb which never will be comparable with sholey HAHK Ddlj MEA etc.

  44. Bored 6 years ago

    Lets have 10 different kinds of ATBB – then all movies can be called ATBB and everyone can be happy.

  45. Cinema lover 6 years ago

    @Bored trade people can’t create different virdict for different movies on the base of collections. There r other relative parameter also taken into consideration like trending, acceptance, roi etc For ex. Rowdy rathod gross 55 cr less than ett but both have declared as a bb by all trade. But ett remain bigger hit than rr. Similar case with atbb. Sholey HAHK Ddlj remain bigger hit than KKHH RH ankhe @ 3 idiots but all these r included in atbb categories.

    • Baba 6 years ago

      you are trying to define atbb like BBs.a mistake IMO.BBs are many , they come every year but atbb are rare and thats how it should be. an atbb by defnition has to be an event film. the bare minimum std is to atleast outgross the previous atbb that too by a good margin

  46. Bored 6 years ago

    The article on reruns are factually inconsistent – 35 cr for Sholay till 1995 may have been the gross figure but is listed along with nett figures for other movies. The nett on this figure will be arnd 17 cr going by BOI’s calculation procedure – which is 2 cr more than BOI’s 15 cr figure. Not sure how many crores came in from Sholay reruns after 1995 – but it does seem that BOI totals are inclusive of reruns.

    And the 175 cr estimated figure of HAHK can only be wishful thinking even for a gross figure.

    • yakuza 6 years ago

      How u are assuming 35 Crore is Gross figure ?? Specially when we have two more sources (Trade guide and BOI) which are saying same …

      BOI โ€œFor eg Mother India (1957) gave a distributor share of 5 crore but over 30 years and Sholay (1975) gave 22 crore share over a similar period.โ€ ..

      http://www.boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=323&catName=QWJvdXQgSW5mbGF0aW9uIERhdGE=

      And Trade Guide scan refer above comment ..

      How u can assume your self such things ????

  47. Bored 6 years ago

    That article talks about 175 cr for HAHK – obviously they are mixing up gross and nett figures for certain movies here. Sholay ran for more than 10 yrs or so in its first run itself, and in its reruns (over the less than 10 yrs till 1995) more than doubled its first run of 15 cr?

    Its logically improbable … possible but hardly plausible.

  48. Bored 6 years ago

    From BOI’s hidden link:

    “For eg Mother India (1957) gave a distributor share of 5 crore but over 30 years and Sholay (1975) gave 22 crore share over a similar period.”

    Assuming BOI has listed only first runs in their yearly columns, then Mother India did 4 cr nett in 1957 and Sholay did 15 cr nett in 1975 (the 15 cr nett is also the same figure that IBOS lists for Sholay). Hence in the above BOI quote – the share of 5 cr and 22 cr of Mother India and Sholay over 30 years can only be nett share (not distributor share – may be a typo here) of the gross over 30 years – which makes sense.

    The 35 cr figure in the rerun article is likely to be gross figure of Sholay as of 1995 – at the time of writing of that article, 60% conversion ratio was used by the trade to calculate nett share from the gross => 60% of 35 cr gross = approx 22 cr nett (including reruns).

    Just trying to make some sense of all the numbers that are all over the place…

    • yakuza 6 years ago

      You are trying to make some unnecessary sense. We can have doubt only when different sources saying different things .. but now we have all 4-5 sources saying anonymously same thing in range of 30 to 35 Crore Nett including re-runs .. and more importantly all these sources are from hugely different time stamps from 1984 to 2013. Any doubts ??

  49. Bored 6 years ago

    This multiplier of 7.0 for per territory figure again makes no sense. In the Nahta article he says in 2000 major hits were making 15-20 cr per territory – does that imply 140 cr all india collections in 2000 ??? The biggest hits were making 40-45 cr in that time period.

    Lets at least question the data thats available before blindly accepting it! And some here claim to be BO analysts ???

  50. Bored 6 years ago

    To put stuff into perspective – Nahta says Amitabh’s big hits fetched 2-2.5 cr per territory and only Sholay fetched 4 cr per territory.
    Since his big grossers were in the 7-9 cr range in late seventies and early eaighties, extrapolation gives us around 13-14 cr nett for Sholay after its first run. After reruns it is likely to be in 17-22 cr range depending on whom you believe.

    The claims of 35 cr nett and 22 cr distributor share sounds absurd when u put such numbers in perspective to the business of bollywood films in that era. And this does not mean I am doubting how big Sholay was … that would be ridiculous too.

  51. Cinema lover 6 years ago

    @yakuza can u post remaining list. I have same kind of list where It mention gadar 82 cr, HAHK 77.75, Ddlj 67.5, KKHH 59, raja Hindustani 56.98 cr, k3g 48.7, knph 42.70 cr. with same kind of classifications.

  52. raj 6 years ago

    @yakuza – use some common sense and deductive logic man!

    this article says ‘recently released nastik and mahaan’ which means its an article from 1983 or later.

    as per my statement – sholay did 1 cr in 1st year and 2 cr by 1980. the article says 3.5 by 1983 (obviosuly after that sholay wud have hardly made any more money wat with anew breed of actors like mithun, anil, jackie coming, a number of other huge hits like vidhata, ram teri ganga maili, prem rog, nagina hukumat etc and most of 80s movies being targetted at ‘interiors’) there is not much difference between my figures and this article. just exaggerated by 50 lakhs i wud say.

    and u can ask for my chitralekha scan if u had given a 1975 0r 1976 scan saying sholay earned that much. by the 80s the false legends about sholay had started (just like ppl wud believe ddlj really ran for 18 years in one theater though we all know its a farce)

    • yakuza 6 years ago

      Kab tak hawa mein batein karoge Danish ?? We are not here to listen your understanding .. Data lao .. proof lao .. number lao .. we don’t want to listen your wishful thinking.

      “The article says 3.5 by 1983 (obviosuly after that sholay wud have hardly made any more money”

      And we have Data from 1995 … http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/sholay-emerges-as-bollywoods-most-successful-re-run-product-even-after-20-years/1/289356.html

      “Last month Sholay turned 20. And its flames still burn bright. It has already done business of approximately Rs.35 crore. About 60 prints are in circulation and the film continues to run to packed audiences. Minerva itself has repeated the film four times since 1980. The last run, originally planned as a two-week stop-gap arrangement between new releases, stretched into a 12 week re-run on public demand”

  53. raj 6 years ago

    @cinemalover – i wont dispute u saw 3 idiots with 30% full hall in intial days. its possible. i never claimed 3 diots had 100% collection on any day or week. but ur claim of 100% collections of kkhh are pure white lies. diwali was always diwali and on the laxmi puja evening all theres wud be empty even in the 80s. there is no way kkhh can have 100% collections in week one.

  54. raj 6 years ago

    @suprabh – why did u ask my age?

  55. raj 6 years ago

    @yakuza – how can kkhh be 100% for the 1st week wen i saw it myself with more than half the theater empty on diwali evening in delhi? even if i assume it was for some starnge reason only in one theatre, one show that it went empty even then 100% is a wrong figure.

    • Cinema lover 6 years ago

      @raj. Read carefully my comment I said 100% collection in Mumbai. So your claim is fall that on Diwali day theatre runs empty. This maybe possible in today’s time not in 90s or 80s due to less no of screen nd daily 3-4 shows And for ur kind info. First week Delhi collection was 93%, 2nd week 89, 3rd week 88 and till 6th week collection was above 80%. In Mumbai 1st week 100, 2nd week 100, 3rd week 99, 4th week 98, 5th week 93, 6th week 90%. Except Bihar everywhere collections were rock steady on higher side for first 12 week. 45 cr was not small collections in 98. Only in 2001 gadar (which one of biggest hit of all time) and k3g (by small margin)crossed it. Till 2006 there r many big star cast movies released but couldn’t cross it from Lagan to devdas, koi mil Gaya to khnh, b$b to mp, Mhn to vz and around 50 big movies of salman akshay and ajay. Today gajini and dabaang called as atbb got surpassed by at least 6-7 movies in span of 3-4 years despite less releases of big star movies.

  56. raj 6 years ago

    @rajesh – who is danish???

    • phoenix 6 years ago

      A version of Satyam with ‘Bachchan worshipping’ replaced with ‘Bhai worshipping’. Don’t ask who is Satyam!

      • ank_16n 6 years ago

        ‘Bhai’ no ‘Dilip Kumar’ yes ๐Ÿ˜€

        • phoenix 6 years ago

          You mean to say, Danish likes Dilip Kumar more than Salman???

          • ank_16n 6 years ago

            salman is zero for danish in front of dilip kumar……in fact he uses salman’s name to start argument to prove dilip kumar is everything..!!

  57. Raj5 6 years ago

    I don’t think raj is danish. I haven’t seen a single footfall theory from raj yet!

    • yakuza 6 years ago

      Haa .. If not Danish then he must be his handicap neighbor hood who is unable to walk ..

      • ank_16n 6 years ago

        or maybe a fan of Danish’s theories ๐Ÿ˜†

  58. Manish 6 years ago

    good points yakuza , babaji n suprabh … i find KKHH , dabangg , RH – ATBB tags as hilarious – Atleast these shd nt be ATBBs……

    MPK , DDLJ, Gadar can be debatable

    3 idiots surely is ATBB i remember with 3 idiots promo ppl were expecting it to do below ghazine …. 200 to kisi ne nahi socha tha … so 200 cr was unimaginable …

    Last year ETT doing 187 and YJHD (non holiday – 179) makes it clear that CE is not an unimaginable kind of collections …..

    bt at the same time 400 cr i dont think shd be criteria.. if dhoom 3 or krish 2 do 300 plus they can be rytfully called ATBB as even 200 cr mein barely there are two movies and 300 wd be sort of new landmark unthinkable as of now ( iam nt talking abt fanatic talking humare fav ki movie 200 karegi , 300 karegi etc etc )

  59. saurabh 6 years ago

    Inflation-adjusted 3 Idiots beats Sholay, Mughal-e-Azam, Chennai Express as Bollywood’s biggest blockbuster ever

    One of the many ever-raging debates in Bollywood is about which is the biggest blockbuster ever? Recent reports say it is the Shah Rukh Khan starrer Chennai Express, but old-timers insist that they haven’t seen anything that mesmerised the nation since K Asif’s Mughal-e-Azam. Many like me, for so long held on to the belief that it had to be the one that had ‘the greatest star cast ever assembled’ and ‘the greatest story ever told’ – Sholay, hoping that inflation adjustments would prove us right.

    All that changed for me when I was through with executing the elaborate set of formulae on an Excel sheet full of data sourced from the Wholesale Price Index since 1939 and domestic box office collections from BoxOfficeIndia.com. I had adjusted the figures for inflation (keeping 1939 as the base) and reached the conclusion that would make Aamir Khan belief in Aal izz well, all the more strong. Not Sholay, not Mughal-e-Azam, not even Chennai Express, 3 Idiots remains Bollywood’s biggest hit ever in India when the prices are brought at par. And old-timers were also not very off the mark, Mughal-e-Azam was huge at its time, given that the population of the country was also significantly lower. The Rohit Shetty directed film has a good 50 crores to gather before it can trump Rajkumar Hirani’s on this inflation-adjusted list.

    (Note: While BoxOfficeIndia.com provides inflation adjusted figures, they don’t quite add up and therefore we took a more accepted approach for our calculations)

    https://e.infogr.am/The-biggest-Bollywood-blockbusters-ever

    ibnlive.in.com/news/inflationadjusted-3-idiots-beats-sholay-mughaleazam-chennai-express-as-bollywoods-biggest-blockbuster-ever/417682-8-66.html

    ps: I ma not able to copy the content of link.if anybody else can do, it will be appreciated.

  60. Cinema lover 6 years ago

    @manish before release of ce people was thinking that it will not cross ready or even if content is good max it would do 140 cr. Looking at ett, ce, YJHD 3i business is not impressive. It is only unthinkable before its release. But it’s proved wrong when 3 movies closed to it & few more will be added soon. But in case of RH KKHH, it’s business remain intact for 3-5 years and comfortably crossed only by gadar and k3g by thin margin. And till 2006 its proven difficult for all d movies to crossed despite having advantage of increasing in multiplex.

  61. Bored 5 years ago

    My final comment on Sholay figures, here is Ramesh Sippy himself saying Sholay budget was 3 cr and in its first run it made 25 cr and entertainment tax was 50% at that time. If one does the math then it did 12-13 cr nett in its first run.

    http://baradwajrangan.wordpress.com/2013/10/06/those-days-we-could-afford-to-launch-a-film-without-a-script/

    The 35 cr figure quoted in one article above wud be the gross figure after reruns (just as we talked abt before), which implies 17-18 cr nett. I dont think we will ever have another box office moment like Sholay ever again in Bollywood.

  62. Anjanpur685Miles 5 years ago

    Not sure who is doing 3D for Sholay and how it turns out. It better be good. I really want to see this in cinemas – will be fun watching it with my kid.

    Usually I get headache watching a 3D, even so called well done Hollywood movies. Only 3d movie I enjoyed was Avatar. The conversion from 2D to 3D may not be that good for SHolay but atleast it should not be headache inducing (I wont care if some images are blurry)..

  63. yakuza 5 years ago

    Shplay was seen by 25 Crore audience .. by India Today 1987 .. Here’s snapshot .. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvyYO1jCEAEvJq7.

    • yakuza 5 years ago

      sputnik … comment editing not working. please check.

    • Anjanpur685Miles 5 years ago

      huhuhuhuhu

      Sholay was seen by audience in India which liked it. And they saw it like 10-20 times. Hardly 2Cr-3Cr might have seen sholay.

      • Anjanpur685Miles 5 years ago

        Tried to edit this comment 3 times!!!

        If any rules let me know. Such a waste of time !!

  64. Anjanpur685Miles 5 years ago

    @Yakuza, I wasted 20 minutes typing a long comment but stupid rules here scrapped my comment. I am pissed off as you are!

  65. Anjanpur685Miles 5 years ago

    @yakuza

    “Shplay was seen by 25 Crore audience .. by India Today 1987 .. Hereโ€™s snapshot .. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvyYO1jCEAEvJq7.”

    Out of the 2 Cr ppl who saw Sholey till now…

    1) 50 lakh are already dead(they were going to die anyway- old age fucks)
    2) 50 Lakhs are in a condition where they saw the movie the movie just for the sake of it – cant recomment to others (denture missing)
    3) 50 lakh children who saw it sitting lap of their parents praise it.
    4) Remaining 50 lakhs didnt care and went on for their usual job like jacking off to a porno movie or screwing a neighbour lady.

    How does 50lakh count boss?

    • Anjanpur685Miles 5 years ago

      I am only in point no 3.

  66. Anjanpur685Miles 5 years ago

    And damn TQ! for blocking edit comment!

    • Anjanpur685Miles 5 years ago

      This is what happens to your language when you see too much or George Carlin ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • sputnik 5 years ago

      I did not block comment editing. I tried to add a new plugin which wasn’t working anyway. May be that caused the comment editing to not work. I deleted the plugin and comment editing is working for me now. But it has a 30 min limit. So you can make a new comment and check if comment editing is working now. You have to reload the page to get the Edit link though.

      And you say “I wasted 20 minutes typing a long comment but stupid rules here scrapped my comment.”

      So part of your comment went through and other didn’t? Not sure why that happened. But its always better to copy your long comment just to be safe because you never know what will go wrong.

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